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How other distributions do it


Enhancements suggested for current cooker weekly news

January

A user discovered that rpm detected a Pentium-M as Pentium-3 due to missing case for his model, which makes wonder how it would be a lovely world if all cpu detection routines were centralized and shared among all linux ;-) Solution is to create /etc/rpm/platform with the following content : pentium3-mandriva-Linux, common behaviour between all app regarding all the cpumodels (rpm, mandriva installer, /proc/cpuinfo, uname, ...) would be great.
http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-01/msg02147.php
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=178211

USB key becomes root-read-only ?
http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2005-11/msg00677.php first (?) discussion about USB keys
http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2005-11/msg00766.php bug 19667 appears in November NTFS USB Key mounted as root readonly
http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-01/msg00205.php USB key mounted automatically but with wrong permissions
http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-01/msg01801.php (once more it happens to another user)
http://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20379
http://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20496
http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-01/msg01791.php Will root remain or will it go back to mounted as user one day?
http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-01/msg01816.php short answer by Andrey Borzenkov : "Well, as it stands now, it likely to remain broken for some time." and possible solutions involving KDE/Gnome + HAL and D-bus
http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-01/msg01833.php Dick Gevers proposes to add ivman as a service with chkconfig (tested with Gnome)

Idea to improve installation... download available updates BEFORE the packages installation, should have made its way to IdeasForMandrivaLinux2007? even though it received the classical objections of chicken and egg problem (with internet connection necessary). Authentication is another thing to take into account (reread why@). More interesting documentation to read while installing or even a game have been suggested.
Well anyone interested in these features ? Then enter the bug, update the wiki linking to the thread they bring new pros against cons so that it is made real !
http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-01/msg01648.php
http://qa.mandriva.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/IdeasForMandrivaLinux2007

Many mailing-list problems, people get unsubscribed possibly because a too strict policy is applied to the list : multiple mail server, multiple sympa server, mail silently ignore, silent unsubscribe at first mail error.
http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-01/msg00925.php some humour and answers
http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-01/msg00890.php test leading to a long thread
http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-01/msg00673.php at the beginning of the year, no real solution identified :-(

Some people overlook or forget that there is no "updates media" for packages in cooker
http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-01/msg01578.php


http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-01/msg01201.php gnash a free replacement for Flashplayer ? based on swfGames

Wine suffers too from WMF security hole (patch provided), it's suggested to be moved to contrib to benefit from versions upgrades instead of security updates which is not accepted. Then comes a discussion of how wine becomes now suficiently mature to be easy to use, even for newbies.
http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-01/msg01230.php wine to be moved to contrib ?

hibernate could be used for laptops' suspend mode : gnome-power-manager uses HAL that calls the helpers coherently (/usr/sbin/hal-system-power-*) , this framework is suficiently good that it should be supported, hibernate being one example. Another thread goes in deep detail about modular IDE and hibernation/resume, giving a how to initiate resume manually easily with echo -n 3:2 > /sys/power/resume. Backports for KDE may be done to get suspend/resume to work correctly.
http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-01/msg01219.php hibernate works with Gnome that has good hardware support
http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-01/msg00665.php modular IDE + hibernation/resume
http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-01/msg00853.php backports for KDE are necessary to make suspend work correctly

K6-2 processors suffer from choices of compilation optimisations, a faulty package should be identified and bug reported upstream to be taken into account by developers (rather than only by packagers). Austin Acton ends up proposing solution once discussion has calmed down a little : make a policy that people agree with. A proposal is made to identify packages mmx-processor. Michael Scherer finds the same issue raised on fedora and rhl mailing-list. Gwenole Beauchesne reminds that you can build i686+sse binaries but place them in */lib/sse/. If you use i686(w/cmov)+mmx, place them in */lib/i686/mmx. etc.
http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-01/msg00061.php K6-2 processor support in 2006.1 comes back again in this long thread
http://www.redhat.com/archives/rpm-list/2002-May/msg00257.html
http://listman.redhat.com/archives/rhl-devel-list/2004-December/msg00098.html

Parallel init - also called Pinit - may bring some more improvements in the boot process, thanks to most of the initscripts containing parallel initialization headers have been converted to use LSB headers
http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-01/msg00000.php Parallel init, the revenge of the script (choose another thread link@)
http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-01/msg01073.php Parallel init and LSB headers
http://www.linuxbase.org/spec/ Linux Standard Base (LSB) specification

Shorewall is polluting syslog, making it unusable. Then a bug is identified in shorewall setup through drakfirewall (should make its way in 2007 enhancements). Two enhancements are proposed so that when you switch between profiles, it means you change from one network setup to another, so your firewall configuration and proxy settings probably change too : add /etc/shorewall/* and /etc/urpmi/proxy.cfg
to the file /etc/network/list by default
http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-01/msg01327.php Could Shorewall have it's own logfile ?
http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-01/msg00915.php Shorewall setup bug
http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-01/msg01022.php 2 new bugs for the price of 1 to enhance shorewall / netprofiles

An initial question about purpose of /incoming, unmaintained packages leads to life-cycle of packages and how to adopt a package whose maintainer has not time to keep it up to date.
http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-01/msg00995.php
http://qa.mandriva.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/ContributerHowto

Mozilla firefox 1.5 and dependencies : It usually takes a week to rebuild all packages requiring it as there are many dependancies and it may break many things : to get an evaluation of it, just run
urpmf --requires firefox | sed 's/:.*/ /'| grep -v mozilla-firefox |wc -l # to list / count the number of packages currently depending on firefox
For example, avidemux needs in fact Spidermonkey javascript engine from mozilla, which is found in Firefox packages : Isn't it possible to make a real library based install ? It didn't worked, or it wasn't maintainable as is confirmed by Frederic Crozat.
http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-01/msg00876.php many dependancies identified broken
http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-01/msg00965.php questions / answers to difficulties with firefox dependancies
http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-01/msg00971.php answers by the maintainer Frederic Crozat
http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-01/msg00942.php Frederic Crozat reminds that using bugzilla is easier to track bugs encountered on the latest firefox 1.5 package

Some tips to add device types to diskdrake, with some programming in detect_devices.pm, devices.pm & partition_table.pm
http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-01/msg00653.php

SElinux support dropped by Mandriva : rsbac is preferred as it does not requires changes to userland stuff and requires less work than SElinux to work out of the box
http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-01/msg00906.php selinux dead ?

ndiswrapper userspace package can only be updated in sync with the kernel, as the kernel module is packaged in the kernel package and the version of the module has to match the version of the userspace tools.
http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-01/msg00604.php ndiswrapper submitted

Some intricacies of rpmsync are explained to prevent mirroring locally debug packages. The solution is rpmsync --exclude-from=filename (because the script changes directories, you should give an absolute path to the exclude.lst file just to be safe).
http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-01/msg00724.php using rpmsync and exclude.lst

December

(to be completed)




November

(to be completed)
Fabrice Facorat notices that wiki pages for easywifi and network manager in 2006 have been created and suggests to send them to journalists :-) as it is no doubt mostly awaited features for ease of use.
http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2005-11/msg02642.php

Proposal by Fabrice Facorat - with the example of Diskdrake - to document Mandriva tools on the wiki with direct link to CVSweb / screenshots / features list / TODO + link to bugzilla
http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2005-11/msg00760.php


http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2005-11/msg00868.php

Firefox 1.5 makes its way into cooker, but be warned : do not to put it into community devel 2006.0 without fred crozat approval ! Maybe it would be important to remind that it often breaks nss support (people cannot use DNS resolution anymore and find any website), it may break gecko support as well hence rendering of many help pages (and firefox of course).
http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2005-11/msg03349.php




selection to do for November

http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2005-11/thrd7.php thread index : browse from last to previous and bottom to top (would be easier without all those bugs... maybe a separate mailing-list filtering them...)

http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2005-11/msg00868.php http://qa.mandriva.com//twiki/bin/view/Main/InstallPatch patch management, example of use with megaraid module in kernel

http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2005-11/msg00371.php xterm no longer appears in the menu System/Terminals with the other terms, but under Development/Debug !? Will all
terms move to the new menu location?
http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2005-11/msg00494.php fixed

http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2005-11/msg00476.php Adam Williamson answers to a user'squestion about how to use urpmi-parallel to install Mandriva on several computers
http://www.happyassassin.net/2005/05/04/a-quick-guide-to-urpmi-parallel/

http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2005-11/msg00510.php crontab binary is now SUID ? Is it normal ? Discussion about msec configuration : Its not possible to add msec rules to packages. This means that *all* msec rules need to be in the msec package, which not everybody can (or should) be able to update. This means it won't scale.
http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2005-11/msg00615.php

http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2005-11/msg00202.php Flash Player becomes opensource ? An error which may be a premonition when now gnash is actively being developed ?
find latest thread about gnash

http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2005-11/msg00268.php change splashscreen for Gnome 2.12 in cooker (find previous thread on 20061028)


http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2005-11/msg00363.php list of already used port in default config
http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers


not kept

http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2005-11/msg00004.php interesting way of connecting with ADSL in Brazil : using a browser for authentication /o\, suggestion for improvements (no answer :-( )

http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2005-11/msg00569.php strange bug with kmail : welcome message keeps coming back even after deleting it (workaround found)
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